Episodes

Sunday Aug 08, 2021
The End Game Ep. 26 - Michael Howell PREVIEW
Sunday Aug 08, 2021
Sunday Aug 08, 2021
In the financial market context, the word ‘liquidity’ is three very distinct things: overused, misunderstood and crucially important.
In the latest edition of The End Game, CrossBorder Capital’s Michael Howell joins Bill and Grant to shed some light on those three key factors, explaining how he views liquidity, why it’s so crucial and what he’s observing in global liquidity flows at the present time as well as outlining the similarities between today and previous episodes where liquidity flows offered key clues to the future path of risk asset prices.
The importance of China’s policy actions are explained as is the recent turbulence in the reverse repo market plus, when Michael explains how global capital markets have shifted away from being a financing mechanism to something altogether different, Bill has an ‘aha moment’.
This is yet another tremendous conversation as the search for The End Game continues.
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Monday Aug 02, 2021
The End Game Ep. 25 - Kyle Bass PREVIEW
Monday Aug 02, 2021
Monday Aug 02, 2021
The latest guest to grace The End Game is the familiar voice of Kyle Bass, Founder and Chief Investment officer of Hayman Capital Management in Dallas, TX.
Kyle, Bill and Grant discuss Kyle’s thoughts on what The End Game may look like, with the recent outbreak of inflation likely to play a major part in the transition from the current financial system to whatever comes next.
Kyle explains why he thinks time has run out for central banks, what he believes they’ll be forced to do and how investors should try to protect themselves against the likely outcome: deeply negative real rates.
Kyle shares the stories of two private meetings with BoJ governors, explains why and how his Rational Investor Paradox ended up confounding its detractors and, of course, offers his thoughts on China, the current and future path of U.S. policy towards their rising rival and the potential pitfalls for the world of a swiftly-reopening economy.
Another wonderful addition to The End Game series.
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Thursday Jul 29, 2021
The End Game Ep. 24 - Greg Jensen PREVIEW
Thursday Jul 29, 2021
Thursday Jul 29, 2021
Our special guest on the latest edition of The End Game is Greg Jensen, the Co-CIO of Bridgewater Associates, the $140billion asset manager based in Westport, Connecticut.
Over his 25-year career at the firm, Greg has spent an inordinate amount of time using historical precedents to construct ever-more complex algorithms to help understand and predict evolving market dynamics.
In this fascinating discussion, Greg digs deep into the current macro environment, explaining at length how Bridgewater’s framework helps them evaluate the predicament facing the world’s central banks and formulate a set of likely outcomes in terms of both policy and market response.
The death of the ‘transitory’ narrative, the lessons to be learned from previous periods of disruption and the advantages the shrinking set of options available to policymakers offer investors all come under the microscope as we get an insight into the investment process behind one of the world’s largest pools of capital.
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Sunday Jul 25, 2021
Super Terrific Happy Hour Ep. 12 - F-Bombs
Sunday Jul 25, 2021
Sunday Jul 25, 2021
The Super Terrific Happy Hour returns with Steph Pomboy up a mountain in bear country contemplating all kinds of fascinating data points and dissecting them in her own inimitable way.
The conversation is filled with F-bombs as Grant and Steph ponder a cornucopia of topics from fundamentals to ‘flations to the Fed, froth and flawlessness (or lack of it).
Steph busts out some remarkable stats that will have you scratching your head as you watch markets look through the reality and embrace the fantasy that all is well and there’s nothing to worry about.
The housing market comes under the microscope as does the vital importance of the investing public embracing the idea that inflation is ‘transitory’. There’s something for everyone in this edition of the Super Terrific Happy Hour so dive on in...
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Monday Jul 19, 2021
Monday Jul 19, 2021
Recently, my journey of understanding has taken me into a few shady corners of the cryptocurrrency universe and this week, I make my last foray into that world (for the time being, at least) as I talk to David Dorr, co-Founder of Coro Global and Dorr Asset management and a man who gave me so much to think about in this enormously engaging conversation.
David explains why the way in which the U.S. correspondent banking system works is perhaps the most underestimated facet of the crypto space, why he believes ‘tokens are broken’, the likelihood that bitcoin will soon be obsolete (though something transformative will rise from its ashes) and the promise offered by tokenless Distributed Ledger Technology.
David’s combination of knowledge, experience and skepticism is tremendously powerful and what he has to say will, I suspect, captivate you the same way it did me.
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Sunday Jul 11, 2021
Sunday Jul 11, 2021
My recent foray into the world of the stablecoin tether and the companies and personalities surrounding it has been utterly fascinating. I’ve seen many curious things during my career but the seemingly blatant nature of what certainly seems, at face value, like a gigantic fraud, has astonished me.
In the recent June edition of Things That Make You Go Hmmm..., I dove into Tether (the company), Bitfinex and tether (the coin) and what I found blew my mind.
Much of my research was built upon the work of a group of tether skeptics, one of whom, Bennett Tomlin, agreed to join me for this discussion to hopefully bring the story to wider attention. It’s worth pointing out that Bennett is not a crypto-skeptic, but what he’s uncovered is a complex web of deceit and obfuscation that will, I suspect, take your breath away like it did mine.
Joining Bennett and myself is George Noble, a hugely experienced hedge fund manager with an extraordinary track record. Like Bennett, George is not anti-crypto, but his own work on Tether has led him to similar conclusions. Hopefully, this discussion between a stalwart of the financial industry and a man who has immersed himself deep in the crypto world can help both sides understand each other better and you to gain a perspective on what could well become the biggest story in crypto in the coming weeks and months...
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Thursday Jul 08, 2021
The Grant Williams Podcast: Dylan Grice, Calderwood Capital - PREVIEW
Thursday Jul 08, 2021
Thursday Jul 08, 2021
My guest this week is the founder of Calderwood Capital, the author of Popular Delusions and my friend, Dylan Grice.
Dylan’s ability to not only think about the financial world in unconventional ways, but to communicate those thoughts clearly and effectively has placed his writing in the very top echelon of the research world.
Now, with the founding of Calderwood Capital, Dylan has an investment vehicle through which he can take advantage of his unique, idiosyncratic ideas.
In this conversation, we hear Dylan’s views on the inflation/deflation debate, his thoughts on Uranium’s place in the ESG debate and how, in order for investors to take advantage of the opportunities currently presented by the markets, they likely need to get more creative and go to places which might make them feel uncomfortable. We also take advantage of Dylan dropping the C-bomb to discuss you-know-what...
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Monday Jun 21, 2021
Monday Jun 21, 2021
My guest in the latest episode of The Grant Williams Podcast is someone I’ve been dying to interview for a very long time – the wonderful Liz Ann Sonders, Chief Investment Strategist at Charles Schwab.
My anticipation was rewarded with what turned out to be one of my favourite conversations to date as Liz Ann talked about her formative years working for the late, great Marty Zweig, the seismic changes she’s seen in the investment industry during her two decades with US Trust and Schwab and the importance of trying to help educate a new generation of investors in an environment which seems more and more to want to lure them away in the short term from the disciplined practices which will serve them best over the long term.
Oh, and of course, we talk about markets in general, growth vs value, inflation vs deflation and all the other stuff about which you’d want to hear Liz Ann’s thoughts plus, we get to hear exactly where Liz Ann was in March 2009 when she and her husband heard the bell ring...
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Tuesday Jun 15, 2021
The End Game Ep. 23 - Daniel Oliver Jr. PREVIEW
Tuesday Jun 15, 2021
Tuesday Jun 15, 2021
Dan Oliver, the founder of Myrmikan Capital and author of the upcoming book, Golden Tears: A History of Credit Bubbles, joins Bill and Grant for an absolutely spellbinding conversation about, well, the history of credit bubbles.
Using John Law and The Mississippi Bubble as a backdrop, Dan lays out the eerily familiar path taken centuries ago by France as it tried to extend the seeming prosperity enjoyed by its citizens in the wake of a switch to fiat currency and highlights the problems faced by the French within the context of today’s central bankers.
What do credit bubbles past have to teach us about the potential End Game for our current environment? How can a very familiar final chapter be avoided? What role do cryptocurrencies potentially play and why might a total collapse be the best solution?
If, as Shakespeare wrote, what’s past really is prologue, you won’t want to miss this conversation.
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Friday Jun 11, 2021
The End Game Ep. 22 - Simon Mikhailovich PREVIEW
Friday Jun 11, 2021
Friday Jun 11, 2021
Founder of The Bullion Reserve, Simon Mikhailovich joins Bill and Grant for the latest episode of The End Game to discuss the idea of a failed state being a potentially unexpected resolution to the current financial and geopolitical turbulence enveloping the world.
Drawing on his formative experiences in the Soviet Union and his family’s subsequent expatriation to the United States, Simon explains how the collapse of an empire felt for those living under its umbrella, the parallels he sees in the West of today and the signs he’s looking for to suggest an acceleration of the move towards a catastrophic failure.
Simon discusses the role played by gold in similar events throughout history and answers the question ‘has the West moved past the point of no return?’ in a way that may surprise you...
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